Pink talks growing resilient kids – and reveals she calls her son “Meatball”

Pink on The Ellen Show

Pink’s latest appearance on The Ellen Show offered a bit more (frankly quite heartbreaking) insight into her 6-year-old daughter Willow’s struggle with her own self-image.

“I’m the ugliest girl I know”

You will almost definitely remember that Pink’s speech about diversity and acceptance was one of the highlights of the recent MTV Video Music Awards?

Well, Ellen drilled down a bit deeper and chatted to Pink about the events that inspired her speech. It’s the kind of familiar conversation that will probably make you want to have a little sob.

“I was driving her to school,” Pink explained  “and out of the blue she goes ‘Mama?’ and I go ‘yeah, babe?’ and she goes ‘I’m the ugliest girl I know’.”

“What are you talking about?!”

The mum-of-two could not believe what she was hearing. In her head she was howling in protest, but outwardly she tried to keep her cool and parent calmly through this fraught situation.

“I was like ‘What are you talking about? You’re incredible! I made you! You can’t say that!'”

“Actually… I didn’t say anything because I didn’t want to Mom her and start preaching to her and not be effective at all. I just stayed quiet and said ‘Why do you think that?’ Did someone say that to you? What’s happening?'”

“She said ‘I just look like a boy with long hair’ and so I just didn’t say anything.”

“I didn’t know what to say.”


Pink, obviously feeling like her heart had been torn out, because who doesn’t feel that way when their kid is hurting, did the only sensible thing.

“I went home, I cried and I made a Word document,” she confirmed. 

Ellen then explained that Pink created a document to show her daughter that diversity is powerful.

“It gave examples of everyone who looks different and everyone who is powerful in the world including yourself, selling out stadiums and you do not conform to try and look like anyone else.”

“Just trying to make her more resilient”

Pink admitted that being hurt by others is a part of life, but that she wanted to help her daughter learn to cope with the bullies and critics.

“I get my feelings hurt. I get my feelings hurt all the time. It hurts. It doesn’t feel good to hear mean things about yourself, but if you’re human you’re going to hear it,” Pink said.

“If you’re past the age of 12 you will at some point be heartbroken by someone else. So, I’m just trying to make her more resilient.”

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Introducing, meatball!

Shifting gear, the pair chatted about Pink’s newest addition to the family, an 8-month-old baby boy.

“You have a new little child,” Ellen said.

“I do. I have a meatball.”

“What is the meatball’s name?” Ellen quizzes.

“Jameson,” Pink clarifies, explaining just how they came to choose this name. “My dad’s name is James, my brother’s name is Jason, Carey’s middle name is Jason, we’re both of Irish descent and we like whisky.”

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Boob police

They then talked about that great parenting outrage trigger – normal breastfeeding. Sigh.

“You’re breastfeeding,” Ellen said, noting that even feeding a baby comes with its army of critics. “It’s such a weird thing that people have strong opinions about breastfeeding.”

“People have strong opinions about things that don’t affect their life at all,” Pink replied, incredulously. “I’m feeding my kid. Would you rather him scream, because he’s very capable of that.”

To celebrate Pink’s booby efforts, Ellen presented her with an amazing bespoke Ellen-branded breast-pumping bra. Pink promised to model it on Instagram very, very soon, so keep your eyes peeled for that!

Pink on The Ellen Show

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